Comments on: Voronin: Simply not good enough http://anfieldred.co.uk/2009/11/voronin-simply-not-good-enough/3277/ Liverpool FC News Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:52:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Kev j http://anfieldred.co.uk/2009/11/voronin-simply-not-good-enough/3277/comment-page-1/#comment-15238 Kev j Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:58:31 +0000 http://anfieldred.co.uk/?p=3277#comment-15238 Ive just come off the liverpool website and i was just reading a story that rafa says that we haven't seen the best of lucas yet! is he 4 real this bloke! he isnt gona get better!he's played 86 games for us and only scoring 4 goals since 2007 and he says we aint seen the best of him do me a favour rafa! he has a shit eye 4 talent he really does need to get new glasses! so does this mean lucas will start a-head of aquilani on mon night? voronin isnt good enough either! 39 games and only 6 goals! no where near good enough 4 PL standards and RB thinks voronin can have a big impact this season NO CHANCE! who also has read the papers 2day that barca are gonna make a 85m bid 4 shrek boy in the summer! hold on a minute if shrek boy is suppose to be worth 85m then torres is close to 100m right?? he has more skill,pace,scores more goals good in the air has everything shrek hasnt right or wrong??? 85m for rooney do me a favour!!!!!! Ive just come off the liverpool website and i was just reading a story that rafa says that we haven’t seen the best of lucas yet! is he 4 real this bloke! he isnt gona get better!he’s played 86 games for us and only scoring 4 goals since 2007 and he says we aint seen the best of him do me a favour rafa! he has a shit eye 4 talent he really does need to get new glasses! so does this mean lucas will start a-head of aquilani on mon night? voronin isnt good enough either! 39 games and only 6 goals! no where near good enough 4 PL standards and RB thinks voronin can have a big impact this season NO CHANCE! who also has read the papers 2day that barca are gonna make a 85m bid 4 shrek boy in the summer! hold on a minute if shrek boy is suppose to be worth 85m then torres is close to 100m right?? he has more skill,pace,scores more goals good in the air has everything shrek hasnt right or wrong??? 85m for rooney do me a favour!!!!!!

]]> By: jtppn http://anfieldred.co.uk/2009/11/voronin-simply-not-good-enough/3277/comment-page-1/#comment-15237 jtppn Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:29:02 +0000 http://anfieldred.co.uk/?p=3277#comment-15237 You got to laugh sometimes or you will go mad, anyone who thinks voronin is a good player is already there, he was crap when we signed him and why we let him come back is beyond me, and i'm not judging him on wednesday game, perhaps this season the law of averages are catching up with us, we had some real good luck last season, we could have and probably should have beaten lyon twice, some good chances in both games, you can point the finger at many LFC players for poor play so far this season. You got to laugh sometimes or you will go mad, anyone who thinks voronin is a good player is already there, he was crap when we signed him and why we let him come back is beyond me, and i’m not judging him on wednesday game, perhaps this season the law of averages are catching up with us, we had some real good luck last season, we could have and probably should have beaten lyon twice, some good chances in both games, you can point the finger at many LFC players for poor play so far this season.

]]> By: fairweather red http://anfieldred.co.uk/2009/11/voronin-simply-not-good-enough/3277/comment-page-1/#comment-15236 fairweather red Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:32:43 +0000 http://anfieldred.co.uk/?p=3277#comment-15236 Whilst I believe it a little excessive to focus criticism on strikers whenever the team is doing badly(clearly since the loss of alonso the balance has gone in midfield - and the same can be said for the defence since hypia went) There is one player who shouldn't really get the chance to start a liverpool game and it is voronin. Not to say that he is rubbish, I think he just doesn't have anything near 'lethal finishing' to justify a place in a premiership nevermind a champions league match. I notice that the critics of Babel an Ngog simmer down after they score a goal. If Liverpool had not conceded a goal late toLyon I think people would have questioned their views on Babel. Babel and ngog are not rubbish. I don't like Babel because the last thing liverpool need is a player who appears despondant ; granted there are things happening off the pitch regarding his future. I would sell babel if i had the chance and keep ngog. Voronin could be replaced by a reserve. I have been very impressed by Aquilani and if they can sort out a balanced midfield easier said than done liverpool can go on a run ok I think the season is finished for liverpool already, but remember under souness 93-94 I believe 8th place!! .I think a top 4 finish is a 'minimum' Outside top 6 and I would call for a new manager, but personally I still stick with the present manager his track record is too good (games won on a parity with King Kenny etc, considering Rafa is from the 'negative' school of football management that is not bad) Whilst I believe it a little excessive to focus criticism on strikers whenever the team is doing badly(clearly since the loss of alonso the balance has gone in midfield – and the same can be said for the defence since hypia went) There is one player who shouldn’t really get the chance to start a liverpool game and it is voronin. Not to say that he is rubbish, I think he just doesn’t have anything near ‘lethal finishing’ to justify a place in a premiership nevermind a champions league match. I notice that the critics of Babel an Ngog simmer down after they score a goal. If Liverpool had not conceded a goal late toLyon I think people would have questioned their views on Babel. Babel and ngog are not rubbish. I don’t like Babel because the last thing liverpool need is a player who appears despondant ; granted there are things happening off the pitch regarding his future. I would sell babel if i had the chance and keep ngog. Voronin could be replaced by a reserve. I have been very impressed by Aquilani and if they can sort out a balanced midfield easier said than done liverpool can go on a run ok I think the season is finished for liverpool already, but remember under souness 93-94 I believe 8th place!! .I think a top 4 finish is a ‘minimum’ Outside top 6 and I would call for a new manager, but personally I still stick with the present manager his track record is too good (games won on a parity with King Kenny etc, considering Rafa is from the ‘negative’ school of football management that is not bad)

]]> By: red mist http://anfieldred.co.uk/2009/11/voronin-simply-not-good-enough/3277/comment-page-1/#comment-15230 red mist Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:40:45 +0000 http://anfieldred.co.uk/?p=3277#comment-15230 Voronin is shite simple as that, how 35,000 of us can see that and not RB is beyond me I have liked what I have seen of RB up to last season when he played sooo negatively in the first 1/2 of the season and we dropped points all over the show, then in the second 1/2 of the season he sets them up to play attractive attacking footy and we nearly did it Now RB is shot away, a stubborn Spanish twat who play Lucas Bable and Voronin. Guys I've had it with this manager And the trouble is those two yank twats have no money to even pay him off so we could be stuck with the stubborn prick Oh the only reasion he shipped out Keano so fast was because parry bought Keano and he was making a point. The point he is making now is "I bought Voronin and he's not that bad" Idiot Voronin is shite simple as that, how 35,000 of us can see that and not RB is beyond me
I have liked what I have seen of RB up to last season when he played sooo negatively in the first 1/2 of the season and we dropped points all over the show, then in the second 1/2 of the season he sets them up to play attractive attacking footy and we nearly did it
Now RB is shot away, a stubborn Spanish twat who play Lucas Bable and Voronin. Guys I’ve had it with this manager
And the trouble is those two yank twats have no money to even pay him off so we could be stuck with the stubborn prick
Oh the only reasion he shipped out Keano so fast was because parry bought Keano and he was making a point. The point he is making now is “I bought Voronin and he’s not that bad” Idiot

]]> By: Kev j http://anfieldred.co.uk/2009/11/voronin-simply-not-good-enough/3277/comment-page-1/#comment-15228 Kev j Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:28:54 +0000 http://anfieldred.co.uk/?p=3277#comment-15228 Do me a favour mintox voronin isnt a bad player u say? dont u mean he's a bad player c'mon man cant u see he is useless and he is the worst player 2 pull on the shirt! dont compare the bundersliege with the prem the reason he scored 11 in 20 for hertha is coz its a mickey mouse league he should of stayed there the useless long haired turd! Do me a favour mintox voronin isnt a bad player u say? dont u mean he’s a bad player c’mon man cant u see he is useless and he is the worst player 2 pull on the shirt! dont compare the bundersliege with the prem the reason he scored 11 in 20 for hertha is coz its a mickey mouse league he should of stayed there the useless long haired turd!

]]> By: mintox http://anfieldred.co.uk/2009/11/voronin-simply-not-good-enough/3277/comment-page-1/#comment-15226 mintox Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:12:30 +0000 http://anfieldred.co.uk/?p=3277#comment-15226 I'm reading a lot of rubbish being delivered the way of Voronin, Not good enough to play for Liverpool! a disgrace to the shirt! No Skill! Can't Score! Worst Player to pull on the shirt! I don't think for a second that he's as terrible as is being made out to be. Whenever he has played he's given 100% which is all you can ask of a player, the only problem is that he hasn't been very effective. I'm sure he is a skillful player, quite capable of scoring goals (He scored 11 in 20 games at Hertha Berlin last season) and certainly not even close to the worst player to pull on the shirt (does no one remember the colossal signings of Sean Dundee or Erik Meijer). We're all annoyed at how things are going but don't take it out on Voronin. He was bought by Rafa, and Rafa is very controlling in the way he managers and wants players to play, it was obvious that it didn't work the first time so he was sent out on loan, he's come back and we can't get rid of him nor can we buy anyone to replace him. Rafa has to play what he's got and he's the best that we have available with the injuries at the moment. Remember Keane came with a reputation as a goalscorer, he was useless for us despite his obvious desperation to prove his worth. He just couldn't work within Rafa's system. I believe Voronin is in the same boat. I’m reading a lot of rubbish being delivered the way of Voronin, Not good enough to play for Liverpool! a disgrace to the shirt! No Skill! Can’t Score! Worst Player to pull on the shirt!

I don’t think for a second that he’s as terrible as is being made out to be. Whenever he has played he’s given 100% which is all you can ask of a player, the only problem is that he hasn’t been very effective.

I’m sure he is a skillful player, quite capable of scoring goals (He scored 11 in 20 games at Hertha Berlin last season) and certainly not even close to the worst player to pull on the shirt (does no one remember the colossal signings of Sean Dundee or Erik Meijer).

We’re all annoyed at how things are going but don’t take it out on Voronin. He was bought by Rafa, and Rafa is very controlling in the way he managers and wants players to play, it was obvious that it didn’t work the first time so he was sent out on loan, he’s come back and we can’t get rid of him nor can we buy anyone to replace him. Rafa has to play what he’s got and he’s the best that we have available with the injuries at the moment.

Remember Keane came with a reputation as a goalscorer, he was useless for us despite his obvious desperation to prove his worth. He just couldn’t work within Rafa’s system. I believe Voronin is in the same boat.

]]> By: Kev j http://anfieldred.co.uk/2009/11/voronin-simply-not-good-enough/3277/comment-page-1/#comment-15225 Kev j Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:30:20 +0000 http://anfieldred.co.uk/?p=3277#comment-15225 My thoughts excatly rouman where do we go from here? good post to otley i like u was laughing when rafa decided to take torres off in the 86th min he would of been better leaving him on its so laughable its unreal eh? i agree with u also rouman the 3 stooges u named are so awful esp voronin i bet there isnt many fans with the no10 on there shirts coz he's that shit! so the birmingham game on mon is equally important would'nt u say rouman as i said in my last post we could be mid table by the time we play its bloody frightening eh? since the season has started its all gone pete tong but what can be done,im shiting myself as to how our season is going to pan out now its squeeky bums time now til the end of the season! My thoughts excatly rouman where do we go from here? good post to otley i like u was laughing when rafa decided to take torres off in the 86th min he would of been better leaving him on its so laughable its unreal eh? i agree with u also rouman the 3 stooges u named are so awful esp voronin i bet there isnt many fans with the no10 on there shirts coz he’s that shit! so the birmingham game on mon is equally important would’nt u say rouman as i said in my last post we could be mid table by the time we play its bloody frightening eh? since the season has started its all gone pete tong but what can be done,im shiting myself as to how our season is going to pan out now its squeeky bums time now til the end of the season!

]]> By: George http://anfieldred.co.uk/2009/11/voronin-simply-not-good-enough/3277/comment-page-1/#comment-15224 George Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:24:33 +0000 http://anfieldred.co.uk/?p=3277#comment-15224 Hi Rouman. I'm sick of writing about our teams failings up front and I've sworn not to even mention V.......in again!! He's not worth it! I think you said last week that Pachecho had played for Spain U 19's? I'd love to see him in, or at least a sub, for Brum game but chance of that is slim I think!!! I see that Birmingham's new owner has pledged 40 million for new players in January. Silence coming out of Anfield re. money for January. Oh dear! Hi Rouman. I’m sick of writing about our teams failings up front and I’ve sworn not to even mention V…….in again!! He’s not worth it! I think you said last week that Pachecho had played for Spain U 19’s? I’d love to see him in, or at least a sub, for Brum game but chance of that is slim I think!!! I see that Birmingham’s new owner has pledged 40 million for new players in January. Silence coming out of Anfield re. money for January. Oh dear!

]]> By: rouman http://anfieldred.co.uk/2009/11/voronin-simply-not-good-enough/3277/comment-page-1/#comment-15223 rouman Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:36:31 +0000 http://anfieldred.co.uk/?p=3277#comment-15223 we played well, and didnot deserve to get beat. voronin is so poor he makes vinny jones, look like pele. he cost us the game i would have rather seen babel play the whole game. i hope in jan we get some money for a new striker, i would get rid of babel, voronin , and kuyt. we need class and those three donot have it, i canot see lyon beating florentina, as floretina are a better team, than lyon. over the 2 legs we were better than lyon, we just didnot have the luck, and we had voronin. were too now? hell knows.... we played well, and didnot deserve to get beat. voronin is so poor he makes vinny jones, look like pele. he cost us the game i would have rather seen babel play the whole game. i hope in jan we get some money for a new striker, i would get rid of babel, voronin , and kuyt. we need class and those three donot have it, i canot see lyon beating florentina, as floretina are a better team, than lyon. over the 2 legs we were better than lyon, we just didnot have the luck, and we had voronin. were too now? hell knows….

]]> By: otleyred http://anfieldred.co.uk/2009/11/voronin-simply-not-good-enough/3277/comment-page-1/#comment-15222 otleyred Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:15:13 +0000 http://anfieldred.co.uk/?p=3277#comment-15222 The team performance v Fulham was bloody woeful Swap Deggen for Agger and we play as did last night v Lyon Something is fundamentally flawed somewhere and it has sweet FA to do with the Yanks. RB won't play Pacheco as he won't play Kelly, Darby, Ayala - didn't play Guthrie, Warnock etc. The more people scream for Pacheco the more Voronin will play - it's a delightful trait the manager has called stubborness. Saving Torres for 4 minutes was a master stroke - he should really be up for the Birmingham game now. The team performance v Fulham was bloody woeful
Swap Deggen for Agger and we play as did last night v Lyon
Something is fundamentally flawed somewhere and it has sweet FA to do with the Yanks.
RB won’t play Pacheco as he won’t play Kelly, Darby, Ayala – didn’t play Guthrie, Warnock etc.
The more people scream for Pacheco the more Voronin will play – it’s a delightful trait the manager has called stubborness.
Saving Torres for 4 minutes was a master stroke – he should really be up for the Birmingham game now.

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